He gets away with it, because he says he's playing a character.cooperrocks wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:30 pmSongs like Wicked Young Man and Triggerman aren't condoning school shootings etc, but if anything warnings against that type of behavior.
Songs where Alice may have crossed the line
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Necrophilia is sometimes depicted in thriller films.
Alice is great story teller who loves thriller/horror films. No problem!
I think Jim Morrison's lyrics are far more problematic than Alice's (The End, Riders On The Storm),
but they are imaginative and beautiful.
Alice is great story teller who loves thriller/horror films. No problem!
I think Jim Morrison's lyrics are far more problematic than Alice's (The End, Riders On The Storm),
but they are imaginative and beautiful.
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I would say if you think "I love the dead" crosses the line then Alice may not be your thing
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To me, it isn't about a few expletives - I've been known to paint the air dark at times myself. The line-crossing comes in terms of mentioning J-Lo in a song or trying to be Steven Tyler on the live intro to I'm Your Gun. And most definitely being influenced by Bon Jovi in the 80's. Embarrassing things like that are what bugs me. Yet, I have no problem with Thrill My Gorilla (turn it up loud and drive through the carwash - you'll be hooked on that experience). I must draw the line at Neal's Choke My Python or whatever its called.
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Is it really? I know Alice said it was in the Prime Cuts documentary but I’m not convinced and never really have been. It sounds more like a plain shock tactic than a message song and the anti abuse sentiment was just Alice’s spin afterwards . Obviously I wasn’t present during the writing and recording but I have a suspicion that the vague child neglect subject matter was more an excuse to loudly sing “Dead Babies” in the chorus.
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I believe Michael Bruce stated in his book - which I have - that the idea for the song Dead Babies came from a real life incident when a baby died after ingesting something they shouldn't have, but it wasn't aspirin as stated in the song. This fact wouldn't necessarily mean that DB is automatically an anti child abuse song, though. It could depend on whether it was intended as such by the ACG when they wrote the song.Babysquid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:06 pmIs it really? I know Alice said it was in the Prime Cuts documentary but I’m not convinced and never really have been. It sounds more like a plain shock tactic than a message song and the anti abuse sentiment was just Alice’s spin afterwards . Obviously I wasn’t present during the writing and recording but I have a suspicion that the vague child neglect subject matter was more an excuse to loudly sing “Dead Babies” in the chorus.
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In at least one live version of the song from that time period, Alice sings "quaaludes" and not "aspirin," which seems appropriate for a real-life event in that era.Ted Sallis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 pmI believe Michael Bruce stated in his book - which I have - that the idea for the song Dead Babies came from a real life incident when a baby died after ingesting something they shouldn't have, but it wasn't aspirin as stated in the song.
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Quaaludes were the rage in the '80's. AC also sings about them in "Dance Yourself to Death".SickThings wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:18 pmIn at least one live version of the song from that time period, Alice sings "quaaludes" and not "aspirin," which seems appropriate for a real-life event in that era.Ted Sallis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 pmI believe Michael Bruce stated in his book - which I have - that the idea for the song Dead Babies came from a real life incident when a baby died after ingesting something they shouldn't have, but it wasn't aspirin as stated in the song.
"The rights to Quaalude were held by the JB Roerig & Company division of Pfizer, before the drug was discontinued in the United States in 1985, mainly due to its psychological addictiveness, widespread abuse, and illegal recreational use."
Get rid of one addictive drug & replace it with another more addictive one???
Oxycodone is destroying a lot more lives.
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Yes I remember that now.Ted Sallis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 pmI believe Michael Bruce stated in his book - which I have - that the idea for the song Dead Babies came from a real life incident when a baby died after ingesting something they shouldn't have, but it wasn't aspirin as stated in the song. This fact wouldn't necessarily mean that DB is automatically an anti child abuse song, though. It could depend on whether it was intended as such by the ACG when they wrote the song.Babysquid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:06 pmIs it really? I know Alice said it was in the Prime Cuts documentary but I’m not convinced and never really have been. It sounds more like a plain shock tactic than a message song and the anti abuse sentiment was just Alice’s spin afterwards . Obviously I wasn’t present during the writing and recording but I have a suspicion that the vague child neglect subject matter was more an excuse to loudly sing “Dead Babies” in the chorus.
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I’ve not heard any line crossing since the early days when the bar for upset and uproar was so much lower. Only other line for me has been the number of covers and he is well past that now.
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I agree with The Padrepadre_sliprat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:06 amTo me, it isn't about a few expletives - I've been known to paint the air dark at times myself. The line-crossing comes in terms of mentioning J-Lo in a song or trying to be Steven Tyler on the live intro to I'm Your Gun. And most definitely being influenced by Bon Jovi in the 80's. Embarrassing things like that are what bugs me. Yet, I have no problem with Thrill My Gorilla (turn it up loud and drive through the carwash - you'll be hooked on that experience). I must draw the line at Neal's Choke My Python or whatever its called.
Alice "jumped the shark" with Trash when he started pronouncing the word "baby" as "baaaayyyyybeeee" just like the arse Bon Jovi.
I cringe every time he does it.
The Trash album could be used to induce vomiting in the instance of an accidental poisoning.
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I'm surprised he hasn't Bon Jovized "Dead Babies" yet.
"Dead Bayyyyybbeeeees can't take things off the shelf"
"Dead Bayyyyybbeeeees can't take things off the shelf"
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Vomit Bag anyone???
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Alice crossed the line when he covered David Bowie who disliked Alice.
Even now, I can't face the reality...
Even now, I can't face the reality...
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What about respect for the recently passed Bowie (at that time)?
Sounds like a very Christian thing to do.
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